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So, I was poking around [Coalgirls]_Clannad_02_(1280x720_Blu-Ray_FLAC)_[AEA2D10E].mkv and noticed that there *isn’t* an I-frame at 0:01:00.978 (frame 1462), which is the first frame after the OP. Won’t that cause problems? (And it seems that in this case it is indeed, since the video from before the op plays reapidly from the last I-frame (0:00:58.850, frame 1411) until it catches up after the OP segment finishes.)
That’s not the thing causing the audio delay issue, cause I’ve seen releases from coalgirls where the OP is always the first thing showing up (The series starts with the OP every time, so no problem with the last frame) and the audio has also the delay problem.
Do you have an example so I can take a look?
First episode of Cannan. Actually it’s not the whole series starting with OP…just the first Ep.
The latest version of ffdshow tryouts fixed all problems related to desynchs and such for me. I can also use the ffdshow FLAC encoder again.
http://ffdshow-tryout.sourceforge.net/
Oh and BTW, were there any BD exclusive specials included in the BD?
@LMN
Oh, nice! Thanks
Since season 1 has 23 episodes and there are 24 episodes on Blu-Ray I assume Tomoyo’s Chapter Special is included…But I’m not sure.
I hope so though, my favourite episode! 😀
LMN: Tried both the Beta 7 and the latest svn (both which were *older* and the version I got with the last CCCP beta) and both were exactly the same.
So Clannad also has the synch problem… 😐
Tiago says:
May 14, 2010 at 11:36 pm
First episode of Cannan. Actually it’s not the whole series starting with OP…just the first Ep.
I just tried again all my Canaan, and episodes 01~12 starts with the OP and have the synch problem.
FFDShow FLAC. Disable it. I do not do not do not support FFDShow FLAC whatsoever and will make no efforts to make it work.
How to do AC3 encoding, then?
(And regardless, the encodes are *still* broken regarding linked segments, even without the audio issue.)
Chapters should be fixed for 3+ as they all link on I-frames. 1 and 2 should also be as I remade/fixed the chapters to have as little problems as possible and they played fine on my preview. So any issues are probably your configuration.
If you want AC3 I heard Aften has a good tool.
@anon
Yes, my mistake. I was sleepy yesterday 😛
They all start with OP and have the issue, but like coalgirls said, we just need to disable FFDShow FLAC, so not really an issue for me 🙂
I usually watch it on my TV using MediaPortal (because it’s more remote control friendly), and mpc-hc’s internal FLAC filter doesn’t seems to be available on it, but whatever, hoping to some fix on the ffdshow side (or simply configure mpc-hc as external player on MP).
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@yuriks
I don’t know, but maybe you should try: ffdshow audio configuration -> codecs -> set the Uncompressed (last one on the list) to All Supported, and then enable the mpc’s FLAC internal filter.
Now, when you play the file, it should load ffdshow audio to “decode” the uncompressed audio and probably do what you want.
So what do I set do play FLAC instead of ffdshow?
I recommend madFLAC.
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=130498
Or you can just use the in MPC-HC integrated decoder.
@RoadSign
Media Player Classic Home Cinema’s internal FLAC filter.
On MPC-HC, go to View -> Options -> Internal Filters -> Enable FLAC on the Transform Filters column.
Coalgirls, you placed 1080p torrent link where it says 720p Torrent and vice-versa 😉
Going to upload ep 5 1080p to MU or just seed the torrent?
Seems it will be the torrent.
@coalgirls
im not going to let you remote desktop my computer, but if you email me with what to do, ill do it for you
amd athlon 64 x2 3.2ghz
have hdd space
25/2 connection
got lots of time
why you guys doesn’t include the kanji/hiragana?
on the opening and ending?
I’m rather dissappoint though you guys works well.
coalgirls use ss-eclipse subs
thora use official subs
what’s the difference?
…why the fuck WOULD they include the kanji/hiragana? It just clutters up the screen.
Ichi-nii: like DmonHiro said, why would they include kanji and/or hiragana? Karaoke in general is the third biggest turn-off in fansubs if you ask me (#2 would be name-butchery – incorrect name order/omitted honorifics and #1 would of course be poor translations/poor English). “Translation only” would be the proper way of dealing with OPs and EDs but I generally don’t have a problem with translation + romaji as long as there’s no kind of karaoke effect on the romaji and as long as it’s styled in a way that makes it as non-intrusive as possible.
About the different subs… after having compared the subs side-by-side I must say that the modified official subs are slightly superior (they’re modified so that they’re featuring correct name order and full honorifics). The sentences are better worded more often than the other way around and they also come off as “more complete” from time to time. They’re very similar though. Both subs have their strengths and weaknesses but they’re both excellent in my opinion.
@anon
Aha, that didn’t *quite* work, but then I went to the External Filters section on the mpc options and added “ffdshow audio processor”, and that caused ffdshow to be added to the chain, spdif encoding, and no desync, so case settled.
@coalgirls
Sorry, I had only checked eps 1 and 2 (your alleged fix doesn’t seem to work here, but it’s only two episodes, so no biggie), 3 and onwards look like they are flawless on the change.
why are the 1080p DDL split into 2 parts?
and when will the torrent for 1080p episode 6 be offered?
As i said before this is overcroped.
http://comparescreenshots.slicx.com/comparison/55602/picture:0
See on the first pic at the thin white line on the sleave. Towardsthe right side you can barely see the white on CG’s encode while on doki’s it’s obviously larger
And http://i49.tinypic.com/2vcgbck.png is how it is supposed to look on TV when overscan happens. The “details” lost by cropping out the noise are not supposed to be seen by anyone watching the show in the first place.
@txtsd
1080p files are split into 2 because you need a premium account on megaupload to download files bigger than 1GB.
Torrents will only be batches of 5 episodes and then a final batch with all episodes.
You’re right . Noise’s not mend to be there. And that’s why you crop. But you are not just croping , you’re OVER croping , therefore losing detail that should be there. The image missing from your encode isn’t all noise . Oh and comparing BD source to tv source to prove your point? Yeah … nice one
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overscan
Blu-Rays are meant to be seen on a TV. TVs overscan. The picture I posted was an overscan compensated Blu-Ray. In other words – the picture you’d see if you played the actual disc in your BD drive.
In addition if you agree that there was noise on the edges and are still crying overcrop you are crying over 1 pixel – my safety factor. If you are that butthurt over 1 pixel that wouldn’t be visible on the Blu-Ray itself on playback you are better off buying the disc instead of complaining to me.
Televisions have pretty much stopped overscanning when 1:1 pixel mapping at 1080p became the standard (ie. 2 years ago). As long as the output resolution of the player matches the native resolution of the television, there is absolutely no need to worry about cropping or overscan.
Is coalgirls any related to coalguys?
its have been bothering me for a long time…
@edo
coalguys was started by jaka to troll kristen
coalgirls was started by kristen for…. whatever reason
07,08 720 need to fix (ending)
They work fine here.
@zaockle
so that’s why coalgirls is “like” coalguys.
messing around the subs and not include the kanji/hiragana on the opening/ending.
Both 07,08 play fine but what I think Rummer is saying is right after the ed plays in both eps there is a couple secs where the video is funny just before the preview.
ep 07 23:41 – 23:44 and ep 08 23:41 – 23:44
This only happens in the 720p version. Compare the 720p and 1080p to see what im talkin about.
That’s strange. The linkings are on Aegisub found I-frames so that error shouldn’t have repeated itself. Maybe it does that at 20:40.0305 or something similar. Either way – will be fixed for 2nd batch,
I also experienced the same problem. It goes like this:
—-
07: ED->left over frame from the episode->Preview(suddenly sped up for 1 second at the beginning)
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08: ED->left over frame from the episode->Preview
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09: ED->white frame->Preview
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Sorry if this is a super dumb or answered question. I’m getting delays in all of the episode in video, by about half a second after ordered chapters. After searching around for hours, I’ve found people saying the FFDShow encoder for FLAC is the issue (although) I’m not sure. And I know it’s not because of Coalgirl’s releases, because I have another blu-ray series from a different group (FLAC) which does the same thing. The problem can be fixed just by scanning the video once, but it’s still a pain. Anyone know of a fix for it? FYI, I’m using the FFDShow encoder to output to S/PDIF
@de.monkeyz
That issue is well known. Its been mentioned several times around but all you have to do is disable FLAC on FFDShow and let MPC’s handle it. If you are running CCCP just unselect FLAC in the settings. Cheers!
@itsmeMARIO
Thanks for the info, I figured as much. Unfortunately I need to use FFDShow for FLAC since I have an app set up to switch through sound output modes, so I can use S/PDIF and headphones with DTS and others. Will just have to stick to seeking the video (I usually skip OPs anyway)
I’m using Shark007’s codecs for Win7 x64, how do I disable FLAC on ffdshow?
See what all your bitching has accomplished?
good job guys.
Take your time CG, your quality is awesome and i will wait paitently. Please ignore the asshats. we all know your doing a great job.
Hmm theoretically setting the chapter on the closest flac frame boundary to the I-frame’s timecode might alleviate that problem.
This is only value you need to know, the frame duration. Then find the timecode
+ Default duration: 85.333ms (11.719 fps for a video track)
Say your i-frame is at 00:02:09.954, you divide it by the frame length of a flac frame, then multiply the rounded down integer by the flac frame length to find where your chapter jump should be. In this example the rounded down int is 2354, so 2354 flac frames is your closest to where you want the jump to be.
> 2.00954/0.00085333
ans = 2354.93889
> 2354*0.00085333
ans = 2.00873882
Your chapter jump point should be 00:02:00.873882
Just an idea. Haven’t tried it in real world scenarios, since I haven’t used flac + ordered chapters in a while, but in theory it might just work. Just crossed my mind today.
Let me know if you have any luck with it.
Sorry apparently my maths is retarded today.
> 120.954/0.085333
ans = 1417.43522
> 1417*0.085333
ans = 120.916861
> sec2min(ans)
ans = 2.00916861
Anyway this is the correct maths.
1417 frames is the rounded down int, so the closest flac frame boundary to your i-frame is:
00:02:00.916000000 or 00:02:00.917000000
There abouts.
That’s based off the reported frame size by mkvinfo anyhow, it should be roughly there. That might if you set your chapter jump there using that as an example.
Oh and the chapterstarttime for the following chapter would be +0.085333ms, so:
> 1418*0.085333
ans = 121.002194
> sec2min(ans)
ans = 2.01002194
00:02:01.002 or 00:02:01.003
There abouts.
@ar
Thanks for the info on that, but I have no clue what to use to make those changes ^^ I’m not very good on the upkeep for video encodes and the like.
For a calculator app you can use this:
http://www.zoesoft.com/downloads/CCalc_setup.exe
You can write custom functions and stuff with it.
Set them manually in the chapter file.
00:00:58.609000000 <—– This one is the previous flac frame timecode!
0
1
Opening
eng
1240247729
0xb2 0x66 0xba 0x22 0x7a 0xa6 0xc3 0x28 0x93 0x16 0xf7 0x87 0xd7 0x74 0x58 0x17
00:00:00.000000000
00:01:31.104000000
0
1
Part A
eng
1684902540
00:00:58.809000000 <- This one is the next Flac frame timecode!
That's your previous chapter, your segment-uid linked chapter, and your following chapter.
Ok seeing as I can post xml. Here: http://privatepaste.com/0b42093cae
It has the xml I tried to paste.
Alright, so while I don’t see any issues with the video, and the audio seems to line up fine, the dialogue is absurdly quiet, compared to the BGM and sound effects. (I had the same problem with CG’s Eden of the East movie release.) I’m running it in MPC with the K-Lite package, which hasn’t given me any problems with any similar videos in the past, but… Any ideas?
Chalryn: Get rid of k-lite, install CCCP.
de.monkeyz: I had the same problem. Basically, enable MPC’s FLAC decoder, but also go in the external filters section and add “ffdshow audio processor”, that should make MPC decode the FLAC and then have ffdshow encode it into AC3.
I assume you don’t have a 5.1 sound system hooked up to your PC.
The problem is probably how MPC is downmuxing to stereo, causing the BGM from the rear speakers to be far more prominent than it should be.
Unfortunately I don’t know where in MPC’s settings you can fix this.
@yuriks
My sound system doesn’t seem to output multichannel sound when I try using MPC (with FFDShow Audio used).
@ar
Sorry, I have no clue what I’m supposed to do with the calc and the xml you posted. I’m a complete idiot when it comes to video encodes, chapter files etc.