almost all of thora’s releases have problems with my portable media player ( mostly relating to loops, no prob on pc tho) hence i’d stay with coalgirls for their awesome releases xD!
Those comparison pics really did the trick. Gonna go with Coalgirls all the way. Btw, what are your PCs specs that you need so much longer to encode the episodes?
THORA is a no brain here: they have lossy audio, and they are using the English subs that came with the BD (official). Yup…THORA is the release to get….if you’re retarded.
Hello guys, thanks again Coalgirls you are great, canΒ΄t beleive I’m downloading 1080p version of CLANNAD!
I think your release will be much better than any other, but can I ask you why THORA is not doing a proper job?
640 kbps AC3 when the sources are either 5.1 PCM or 1500+ kbps DTS, and R1 subs.
Oh…so the subs really are from the R1 and the audio is awful :S
That’s just disgusting, this show deserves a release like yours, a great one! Thanks for the info, and keep up the good work π
Doki looks bad. Unless you really don’t want ordered chapters, don’t pick Doki π Thora and Coalgirls almost look the same. Though Coalgirls does look a little better. See Nagisa’s hair.
If you want official subs and lossy audio go with Thora. If you prefer fansubs and lossless audio go with Coalgirls.
While THORAnime have lossy audio, their videos usually have higher bitrates and some shows they encoded seems to be much sharper than others (even Coalgirls). This time around though, after I checked out the comparison pics, I see almost on different between THORAnime and Coalgirls (Doki is a toss, so I won’t mention it), and beside, Coalgirls actually use Eclipse subs (while THORAnime uses R1), and since I love their subs more than any others, I will DEFINITELY, ABSOLUTELY pick Coalgirls this time (oh, flac audio ftw btw).
I don’t mind if THORA will be faster, I’ll be watching this with your releases. Firstly, because of the subs (I don’T have any problems with official subs, but Eclipse-SS is clearly superior to them), and because they are only doing the 1080p version.
Your filtering definitely looks that best. But it looks like you cut the edges of the image off for some reason. Compare THORA and Coalgirls and you can see at the top, the image is cut off a little in Coalgirls. Unfortunate.
That’s because we are the only group that cut off the edge noise. That is not supposed to be on the visible image (overscan cuts it off), so it is not an effect, it’s a flaw in the BD itself. Cropping is proper.
I’m so happy you’re doing this! :))
Take the time you need. I think I’ll rewatch the series all over again while waiting for you to finish it. And I’ll be making some covers for it, still need to do some for Kanon. Just need to find the time.
I’ll be sure to share it with you when I have one ready, like a thank you for all the work you’ve done! ^^
I’ve been out for one day and all this happens, hehe :P. Well, in the older comments I said about posting the subs with the corrected translation and the errors fixed. Here they are:
I see that the 1080p OP/ED are out. I’m downloading them now. If someone wants I can mux the new subs, change the segment ID to match the original files (so the linking with the episodes can work) and upload them :3. And if people still care :P, I can do that with the 720p OP/ED too. I’ll do the 1080p for myself anyway, so I’ll upload them as soon as I have the time (tomorrow night, that is in ~20 hours from this comment’s time).
Hehe, the translation is corrected now. Aside two words, punctuation signs and capital letters, everything’s fine. That’s being picky… but hey, I am a picky bastard :). I already fixed it and mux :3
Lol, CoalGirls Thora
Thanks for Clannad, I’m downloading the ISOs but with 173GB I think I’ll get bored of it in a while and delete the torrent and all the data, like I always do with bigger-than-shit torrents π
Woah, 1,7GB for one episode. That’s quite something. If every episode had that size that would make the entire series 40GB in size. I don’t really think that monstrous size is necessary… well if that’s the prize for highest quality than so be it. I’m only taking the best possible quality for Clannad.
if you use winrar, you can open and extract the video file after downloading both parts, to tell the truth, the 1080p is quite big so I will stick with 720p
are you sure about that edge noise? the only place i see “it” is in nagisa’s, kotomi’s and tomoyo’s character intros in the OP, kyou and fuko dont have it, and its not in any other screens from thoras release
see example http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/9523/clannadop1080pblurayx26.jpg
Yes. Just like how a black bar on 1/2 the screen on the bottom that only shows up 1/4 of the time needs to be cropped, so does this.
Okay, I think this issue was addressed before but I think that those posts disappeared along with the rest of the Kanon posts (old website). Anyhow, right after the OP/ED ends the last few frames from what was shown before the OP/ED started flashes on the screen. I don’t remember what was mentioned about this to be honest and I can’t find anything wrong when I check my settings. FLAC is disabled in ffdshow but checked in MPC-HC’s internal filters. “Try to open linked files” and “Merge all segments” are set to “yes” in Haali’s input settings.
@Death_Reaper:
You know what WinRAR/7-Zip is right? Download it from the official webpage(Viruses come with non-official ones sometimes) and then right click and extract the file. No other work needed. The extracting program you use should find all the parts.
I do warn you that it may take a while to extract since it’s so big. I might have preferred a file splitter that doesn’t compress the files at all, unless the video is archived and split with the lowest compression method.
This is seriously tough for me to decide on which release I should get. I like your video quality, audio quality, and choice of SS-Eclipse subtitles. But I really dislike the styling of the OP, Episode, and ED. I like Doki’s karaoke for their OP and ED, and their audio quality is good as well, but from your comparison picture their video sucks. Thora has good video quality but not as good as yours, audio isn’t good, and choice of subtitles is bad, but their styling for their episode is pleasant to look at.
I wish I could use your video and audio, use Doki’s karaoke for the OP and ED, and use Thora’s styling font for the episode. That would be perfect. I tried changing your OP and ED styling, but then the ordered chapters were totally messed up and didn’t work. Ugh :[
Philip you can use MKVmerge’s header editor to change the ‘segment Unique Id’ (SUID) with the original. So you have to mux the new fonts and subtitles with the video. Then open your new muxed file with the header editor. Also open the original file separately. Replace the new files’s SUID with the original’s, save. Ordered Chapters will work.
@Philip
on doki’s website
“You may want to redecide after I release episode one. The NCOP/NCED were encoded differently, and not filtered. Since CGi and THORA are filtering, I will apply a filter chain too. (Even though filtering a BD is retarded but there you go, and will lengthen encoding times to many hours instead of 40 minutes.)
Also the screenshots are taken on different PCs (with different renderers), hence the different colours. I will do a comparison of all 3 releases soon.”
The comparison Pictures for Doki,coalgirls and Thora were taken on three different computers which is why the colors are different. This is a better comparison between CoalGirls and Thora
Thanks for the help Lemon, it was quite helpful, I got the ordered chapters to work. But now the problem is that… seeing as how I am a complete newbie when it comes to Aegisub and the techs of how anime karaoke works… I basically just took the styling, font, and Karaoke Dialogue from Doki and replaced all of that with Coalgirls’ styling, font, and Karaoke Dialogue. Unfortunately, no karaoke whatsoever showed up when I played Clannad Episode 1. The Default Episode Dialogue of the episode just continued/proceeded/overlapped on to the Opening Sequence after the Prologue. My question to you (or anyone for that matter) am I doing this entire thing incorrectly? Because when I play Coalgirl’s Opening Sequence by itself, Doki’s karaoke shows up just fine (cause I muxed in Doki’s karaoke styling with Coalgirl’s video and audio). But when I play the entire episode (“Prologue,Opening Sequence, Episode, Ending, Preview”), the Karaoke does not show up for the Opening Sequence and the Ending. How can I make it so that Doki’s Karaoke shows up during the episode when it is suppose to and how do I stop the Default Episode Dialogue from overlapping the Opening Sequence? Even though there is ordered chapters, the episode acts as if there is no ordered chapters and proceeds to continue on with the Default Episode Dialogue (it pretends that there is only “Episode 1” without the OP and ED even though there is the OP and ED).
I know I probably repeated a lot of stuff, but I wanted to make sure it all made sense.
Hmm…mc if what they say is true, then that would be really easy for me cause all I have to do is just change the style of the default episode dialogue to anything of my choosing without the hassles of Ordered Chapters which would be great! I enjoyed their Kanon release as well.
Can you do Seto no Hanayome bdrips
No.
MOTTO HAYAKU SPIIDO GET ZE
When you finish your encode, how big do you expect the batch size to be? The size of Kanon’s? Or bigger?
thank you for doing this!, take the time you need
Wait for 1080p of clannad and sora kake girl picture drama. lol
why not?
P: because they are shit quality
Ahh so many groups putting out the BDs. Even Thora made an appearance. Don’t know for sure which group to take :O
Gonna need comparison pics.
What about leaving 1080p to thora then, and focusing only on 720/480p?
Because I believe thora is not doing a proper job.
Also read the FAQ for 480p.
It appears Thora isn’t using Eclipse subs but instead some other subs which I can’t identify. This alone makes Thora a no-go.
almost all of thora’s releases have problems with my portable media player ( mostly relating to loops, no prob on pc tho) hence i’d stay with coalgirls for their awesome releases xD!
And Thora has only lossy reencoded Audio …
Those comparison pics really did the trick. Gonna go with Coalgirls all the way. Btw, what are your PCs specs that you need so much longer to encode the episodes?
THORA is a no brain here: they have lossy audio, and they are using the English subs that came with the BD (official). Yup…THORA is the release to get….if you’re retarded.
Hello guys, thanks again Coalgirls you are great, canΒ΄t beleive I’m downloading 1080p version of CLANNAD!
I think your release will be much better than any other, but can I ask you why THORA is not doing a proper job?
640 kbps AC3 when the sources are either 5.1 PCM or 1500+ kbps DTS, and R1 subs.
Oh…so the subs really are from the R1 and the audio is awful :S
That’s just disgusting, this show deserves a release like yours, a great one! Thanks for the info, and keep up the good work π
Doki looks bad. Unless you really don’t want ordered chapters, don’t pick Doki π Thora and Coalgirls almost look the same. Though Coalgirls does look a little better. See Nagisa’s hair.
If you want official subs and lossy audio go with Thora. If you prefer fansubs and lossless audio go with Coalgirls.
While THORAnime have lossy audio, their videos usually have higher bitrates and some shows they encoded seems to be much sharper than others (even Coalgirls). This time around though, after I checked out the comparison pics, I see almost on different between THORAnime and Coalgirls (Doki is a toss, so I won’t mention it), and beside, Coalgirls actually use Eclipse subs (while THORAnime uses R1), and since I love their subs more than any others, I will DEFINITELY, ABSOLUTELY pick Coalgirls this time (oh, flac audio ftw btw).
“I see almost on different” –> “I see almost no different”
Beside, I can’t really enjoy 1080p so I’ll pick 720p anytime.
I dont care about audio i prefer best translation and honestly i never saw good official translation so i pick up coalgirls.
um fix the 1080p link for OP plz?
I don’t mind if THORA will be faster, I’ll be watching this with your releases. Firstly, because of the subs (I don’T have any problems with official subs, but Eclipse-SS is clearly superior to them), and because they are only doing the 1080p version.
DDL is down or what ??
can you make a torrent for the OP and ED Please
Not like I’m picky or something, but why the 720p filesize is 2x larger than Kanon’s?
No ordered chapters or what?
I’m encoding it to a lower crf value to lower blocking.
Your filtering definitely looks that best. But it looks like you cut the edges of the image off for some reason. Compare THORA and Coalgirls and you can see at the top, the image is cut off a little in Coalgirls. Unfortunate.
That’s because we are the only group that cut off the edge noise. That is not supposed to be on the visible image (overscan cuts it off), so it is not an effect, it’s a flaw in the BD itself. Cropping is proper.
720p ep1 doesn’t seem to have chaptered OP/ED?
I’m so happy you’re doing this! :))
Take the time you need. I think I’ll rewatch the series all over again while waiting for you to finish it. And I’ll be making some covers for it, still need to do some for Kanon. Just need to find the time.
I’ll be sure to share it with you when I have one ready, like a thank you for all the work you’ve done! ^^
I’ve been out for one day and all this happens, hehe :P. Well, in the older comments I said about posting the subs with the corrected translation and the errors fixed. Here they are:
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?tziignkmzym
I see that the 1080p OP/ED are out. I’m downloading them now. If someone wants I can mux the new subs, change the segment ID to match the original files (so the linking with the episodes can work) and upload them :3. And if people still care :P, I can do that with the 720p OP/ED too. I’ll do the 1080p for myself anyway, so I’ll upload them as soon as I have the time (tomorrow night, that is in ~20 hours from this comment’s time).
Hehe, the translation is corrected now. Aside two words, punctuation signs and capital letters, everything’s fine. That’s being picky… but hey, I am a picky bastard :). I already fixed it and mux :3
Lol, CoalGirls Thora
Thanks for Clannad, I’m downloading the ISOs but with 173GB I think I’ll get bored of it in a while and delete the torrent and all the data, like I always do with bigger-than-shit torrents π
Forgot the screen:
http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/3107/beingpicky.jpg
And I meant CoalGirls > (“better then”, the sign for “bigger” didn’t show up) Thora
OMG I am torn I have no idea which to choose yours Thora’s or Doki’s I dont care about File size I just want it to be the best Quality possible
I’ll stick with Coalgirls because I prefer fansub over the official subs which Thora used. Also Doki look worse on comparsion screenshots.
Woah, 1,7GB for one episode. That’s quite something. If every episode had that size that would make the entire series 40GB in size. I don’t really think that monstrous size is necessary… well if that’s the prize for highest quality than so be it. I’m only taking the best possible quality for Clannad.
No torrent why ??
this my be a stupid question
but how do i put the episode 1 in just 1 video file
Because i see the are two files for download of episode 1 and 1-2
Download both and extract the first .rar.
if you use winrar, you can open and extract the video file after downloading both parts, to tell the truth, the 1080p is quite big so I will stick with 720p
thanks for the response
will you make it available by torrent when there are more episodes done ??
I’ll make torrents by discs. Disc 1 is 5 episodes.
are you sure about that edge noise? the only place i see “it” is in nagisa’s, kotomi’s and tomoyo’s character intros in the OP, kyou and fuko dont have it, and its not in any other screens from thoras release
see example
http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/9523/clannadop1080pblurayx26.jpg
Yes. Just like how a black bar on 1/2 the screen on the bottom that only shows up 1/4 of the time needs to be cropped, so does this.
Okay, I think this issue was addressed before but I think that those posts disappeared along with the rest of the Kanon posts (old website). Anyhow, right after the OP/ED ends the last few frames from what was shown before the OP/ED started flashes on the screen. I don’t remember what was mentioned about this to be honest and I can’t find anything wrong when I check my settings. FLAC is disabled in ffdshow but checked in MPC-HC’s internal filters. “Try to open linked files” and “Merge all segments” are set to “yes” in Haali’s input settings.
i’m also having problems with the chaptered op and ed not functioning. Other than that, another perfect release.
@ Koett and Fireflybuzzbuzz
Yeah, I noticed the Chapters were off by a few frames too. I hope she fixes that before going forward with all of this.
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That post does a pretty good job of explaining the problem.
@Death_Reaper:
You know what WinRAR/7-Zip is right? Download it from the official webpage(Viruses come with non-official ones sometimes) and then right click and extract the file. No other work needed. The extracting program you use should find all the parts.
http://www.rarlab.com/
http://www.7-zip.org/
I do warn you that it may take a while to extract since it’s so big. I might have preferred a file splitter that doesn’t compress the files at all, unless the video is archived and split with the lowest compression method.
This is seriously tough for me to decide on which release I should get. I like your video quality, audio quality, and choice of SS-Eclipse subtitles. But I really dislike the styling of the OP, Episode, and ED. I like Doki’s karaoke for their OP and ED, and their audio quality is good as well, but from your comparison picture their video sucks. Thora has good video quality but not as good as yours, audio isn’t good, and choice of subtitles is bad, but their styling for their episode is pleasant to look at.
I wish I could use your video and audio, use Doki’s karaoke for the OP and ED, and use Thora’s styling font for the episode. That would be perfect. I tried changing your OP and ED styling, but then the ordered chapters were totally messed up and didn’t work. Ugh :[
Philip you can use MKVmerge’s header editor to change the ‘segment Unique Id’ (SUID) with the original. So you have to mux the new fonts and subtitles with the video. Then open your new muxed file with the header editor. Also open the original file separately. Replace the new files’s SUID with the original’s, save. Ordered Chapters will work.
I hope I explained it well π
@Philip
on doki’s website
“You may want to redecide after I release episode one. The NCOP/NCED were encoded differently, and not filtered. Since CGi and THORA are filtering, I will apply a filter chain too. (Even though filtering a BD is retarded but there you go, and will lengthen encoding times to many hours instead of 40 minutes.)
Also the screenshots are taken on different PCs (with different renderers), hence the different colours. I will do a comparison of all 3 releases soon.”
Well, here is my own screenshots comparison of the 720p versions between Doki and Coalgirls:
Doki: http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/1015/doki720p.png
Coalgirls: http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/5849/coalgirls720p.png
I’m currently using CoreAVC 2.0.
@People comparing the the pictures.
The comparison Pictures for Doki,coalgirls and Thora were taken on three different computers which is why the colors are different. This is a better comparison between CoalGirls and Thora
http://comparescreenshots.slicx.com/comparison/55386#
when your mouse is on the picture it will show Thora’s screenshot and when the mouse is off the picture it will show CoalGirls screenshot.
to me they look exactly the same
Thanks for the help Lemon, it was quite helpful, I got the ordered chapters to work. But now the problem is that… seeing as how I am a complete newbie when it comes to Aegisub and the techs of how anime karaoke works… I basically just took the styling, font, and Karaoke Dialogue from Doki and replaced all of that with Coalgirls’ styling, font, and Karaoke Dialogue. Unfortunately, no karaoke whatsoever showed up when I played Clannad Episode 1. The Default Episode Dialogue of the episode just continued/proceeded/overlapped on to the Opening Sequence after the Prologue. My question to you (or anyone for that matter) am I doing this entire thing incorrectly? Because when I play Coalgirl’s Opening Sequence by itself, Doki’s karaoke shows up just fine (cause I muxed in Doki’s karaoke styling with Coalgirl’s video and audio). But when I play the entire episode (“Prologue,Opening Sequence, Episode, Ending, Preview”), the Karaoke does not show up for the Opening Sequence and the Ending. How can I make it so that Doki’s Karaoke shows up during the episode when it is suppose to and how do I stop the Default Episode Dialogue from overlapping the Opening Sequence? Even though there is ordered chapters, the episode acts as if there is no ordered chapters and proceeds to continue on with the Default Episode Dialogue (it pretends that there is only “Episode 1” without the OP and ED even though there is the OP and ED).
I know I probably repeated a lot of stuff, but I wanted to make sure it all made sense.
Hmm…mc if what they say is true, then that would be really easy for me cause all I have to do is just change the style of the default episode dialogue to anything of my choosing without the hassles of Ordered Chapters which would be great! I enjoyed their Kanon release as well.
(Coalgirl’s you peeps are still great!)